Thanks guys. Yesterday was out of the norm when I packed my wifes 3" model 36. I am more prone to carrying a model 66-3 3", or a model 24-3 4". They been pulling my pants down and I thought I would try lighter and it wasnt much help. I was thinking I didnt want to wear a heavy gun belt since I retired, but think I may try to start wearing them again. I guess the extra 25 pounds since retirement done the trick! P.S. I do have a safety speed, maybe two. I am going back to a uniform belt on my next outing to see if that helps. My last years on the job I got by with color coded suspenders to match the uniform shirt, duty gunbelt and keepers. Captains left me alone as I had whiskers. I was trying to get by without all the extra weight, but guess I have to go back to what worked. Thanks again.