Here are Keith's loads, some of them at least for handguns.
It would seem to me that being on the safe side I would use the 12gr load for starters that he recommends for the C**t handguns.
Sometimes what is perceived as something by one is not what is perceived by another.
Flattened primers is subjective. Sticky extraction is too, as we discussed earlier. If there is any rounded part left to the primer, I don't consider them flattened. Others have another interpretation of them though.