If they are for next year, I'd just order them now and wait in line untill they come in. I'm going to have to do something for next year too. The easiest thing for me to do will be to put an order in thru Cabelas and just wait untill they come in. I'm semi-close to one of their stores so I can just pick them up when they come in. I bought 8 cases of Federal primers at my local shop in 1996, if I asked the same owner for 8 cases now......He might not even laugh!...ps, stick with Federals with your light action Smiths.