I love my dad's old Victory Model in .38 Spl. It's the pencil barrel model, and I've put on Pachmayr Grippers. I Didn't like the wood slabs or the Lanyard loop. I'd like to find the different barrel length and grip frame options in the 10/13 and 64/65. (2",3",& 4" barrels, & square and round butt grip frames) That would be an interesting mini-collection itself.