On the Marvel, is the barrel stationary and the slide cycle without disturbing the red dot sight? Or does the entire top end cycle, like a 1911?
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Best place to hunt up a used Marvel is over @ rimfirecentral.
I got mine over there (with 4 mags, iron sight top, flat top and muzzle brake) for $325.
FWIW, here is mine on a dedicated S&W 1911 frame.
Easy does it...I'm gettin jealous. Nice set up.
Looks like you had to shimmy the scope rings. What did you do? I have a MatchDot....the rings do not hold that great. I'm looking to try a different brand.
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The front and top of the slide stays stationary , only the rear of the slide moves with recoil. Much like a mod 41 or Browning buckmark.
I always shim my dots/scopes with electrical tape to keep them from getting ring marks when I crank them down. I took this pic ( while back) before I trimed the surplus (with a razor). It's clean now.
I always shim my dots/scopes with electrical tape to keep them from getting ring marks when I crank them down. I took this pic ( while back) before I trimed the surplus (with a razor). It's clean now.
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I bought a Kimber .22 conversion unit early this spring and have been shooting it in our weekly Speed Steel matches. I bought ten Kimber magazines for it and they all work just fine. (Six magazines are the absolute minimum for our matches and I wanted to have a few spares!) I've been shooting Federal Gold Match #711B standard velocity ammo and it functions just fine. I put it on a Colt 1911A1 frame that I had used years ago with a Kart conversion unit for bullseye shooting. The complete frame had been tuned by a gunsmith friend for using the Kart and standard velocity ammo.
In short, I have been very pleased with the Kimber. It was reasonably priced, the magazines were inexpensive and seem reliable and the gun shoots quite well enough for what I want to do with it.
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I bought a Kimber .22 conversion unit early this spring and have been shooting it in our weekly Speed Steel matches. I bought ten Kimber magazines for it and they all work just fine. (Six magazines are the absolute minimum for our matches and I wanted to have a few spares!) I've been shooting Federal Gold Match #711B standard velocity ammo and it functions just fine. I put it on a Colt 1911A1 frame that I had used years ago with a Kart conversion unit for bullseye shooting. The complete frame had been tuned by a gunsmith friend for using the Kart and standard velocity ammo.
In short, I have been very pleased with the Kimber. It was reasonably priced, the magazines were inexpensive and seem reliable and the gun shoots quite well enough for what I want to do with it.
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I've got the unit 1 with both rib options and the steel suppressor. I bought it used so didn't wait but a week or so.
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A WORD of CAUTION.
The Kimber slide does not have a firing pin safety.
I had a SLAM FIRE today. Fortunately the pistol was pointing down range as per the rules of safety. A round did not fully enter the chamber. I pulled the slide back and released it. The round discharged. The projectile hit the ground about 20-30 feet down range. Scared my rear end. Be careful. We can never be too safe.
The Kimber slide does not have a firing pin safety.
I had a SLAM FIRE today. Fortunately the pistol was pointing down range as per the rules of safety. A round did not fully enter the chamber. I pulled the slide back and released it. The round discharged. The projectile hit the ground about 20-30 feet down range. Scared my rear end. Be careful. We can never be too safe.
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I'm really starting to enjoy the Kimber on the DK. It hits nicely. It's a good combo. Reliability has been very good. I think it's still breaking in. One of the magazines had a follower that did not come all of the way to the top. Kimber replaced it AND QUICKLY.
I give the kit 4.5 stars
Kimber is service oriented.
I give the kit 4.5 stars
Kimber is service oriented.
My Kimber rimfire target works very well. You may have some occasional
jams with different ammo but I think all of them most likely do that.I have some older kimber all aluminum mags I found in a shop. My first polymer mags did not work well at all. I think you made a good choice. However, It is not in the same class as my new model 41!!
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jams with different ammo but I think all of them most likely do that.I have some older kimber all aluminum mags I found in a shop. My first polymer mags did not work well at all. I think you made a good choice. However, It is not in the same class as my new model 41!!
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I bought the Kimber because my 41 is out of commission for a while. Nothing compares to a 41.
just thought I would bring this back from the dead and do an update on the Kimber with S&W receiver.
The Kimber will accept the GSG or Sig magazines from there .22LR. They are superior in all regards to the marginal Kimber poly mag and way better than the Promags sold to work with the Kimber.
It does hold the slide open on the last shot and they fed well. That and the fact you can use Taylor Tactical and increase the rounds in the mag to 13 or 16 or 17. I have the 16 round mags. The Kimber is more accurate than the GSG or Sig but no where near as good as my Ruger MK1 bull bbl.
Hope that helps as an update...
The Kimber will accept the GSG or Sig magazines from there .22LR. They are superior in all regards to the marginal Kimber poly mag and way better than the Promags sold to work with the Kimber.
It does hold the slide open on the last shot and they fed well. That and the fact you can use Taylor Tactical and increase the rounds in the mag to 13 or 16 or 17. I have the 16 round mags. The Kimber is more accurate than the GSG or Sig but no where near as good as my Ruger MK1 bull bbl.
Hope that helps as an update...
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I'm glad to hear that so many of you are enjoying good service from your Kimber conversion kits. My experience with the kit and Kimber's customer service was exactly the opposite and soured me on Kimber products.
I bought a Kimber Rimfire Target conversion kit because I didn't care for the offensive attitude displayed on Ciener's website and because I felt a Kimber kit would work best on my Kimber Stainless Gold Match II. But I had nothing but trouble with it and returned it to Kimber for attention. It came back with the repair description, "Replaced small parts." Hell, the whole kit could be considered a "small part."
It still didn't work right so back it went again, this time with my frame so it could ruled out. I received a similar poor repair description except they also replaced the mainspring housing on my frame. When I called to ask what that part had to do with the kit not functioning when the gun didn't fail with its .45ACP slide attached, no one could tell me.
A third trip back yielded no difference, either. And I was using nothing but their recommended ammo, CCI MiniMags.
Finally, I asked that they exchange the kit for a new one. They did (as confirmed by a mark I placed on the old one) and off I went to my club to try it out. I had exactly a 74% failure rate! I tried to shoot 100 CCI MiniMags and 74 of them failed to feed, failed to fire, failed to extract or failed to eject.
I returned that kit to MidwayUSA, where I bought the original one, along with the repair records (such that they were) and at the suggestion of a friend who has forgotten more about rimfire guns than I will ever know, bought an Advantage Arms target kit. He told me that the differences between the Advantage Arms and Marvel kits are so miniscule that the average shooter would not be able to detect any difference in performance.
And he was right! To date, I have used the Advantage Arms kit on three 1911 frames, including that Kimber, without even one failure of any kind. And its accuracy is quite satisfactory, too.
Some time after that, two other club members joined me on our club's 25-yard pistol range. Both were trying out Kimber conversion kits they had just purchased and both went through the same frustrations that I had.
I eventually sold all of my Kimber 1911s and replaced them with Smith & Wessons. I did return one S&W for attention to something that turned out to be a non-issue but the actual Performance Center gunsmith working on the gun called me to discuss his findings. From those experiences, I heartily recommend both Advantage Arms rimfire conversion kits and S&W 1911s but have less than an enthusiastic opinion of Kimber products and service.
Fun2drive, I have a DK edition like yours - I assume yours is a .38 Super also and am glad to know that my conversion kit would work on it as well as my other 1911s. I've never tried it on that frame as I enjoy shooting it as a Super so much.
Ed
I bought a Kimber Rimfire Target conversion kit because I didn't care for the offensive attitude displayed on Ciener's website and because I felt a Kimber kit would work best on my Kimber Stainless Gold Match II. But I had nothing but trouble with it and returned it to Kimber for attention. It came back with the repair description, "Replaced small parts." Hell, the whole kit could be considered a "small part."
It still didn't work right so back it went again, this time with my frame so it could ruled out. I received a similar poor repair description except they also replaced the mainspring housing on my frame. When I called to ask what that part had to do with the kit not functioning when the gun didn't fail with its .45ACP slide attached, no one could tell me.
A third trip back yielded no difference, either. And I was using nothing but their recommended ammo, CCI MiniMags.
Finally, I asked that they exchange the kit for a new one. They did (as confirmed by a mark I placed on the old one) and off I went to my club to try it out. I had exactly a 74% failure rate! I tried to shoot 100 CCI MiniMags and 74 of them failed to feed, failed to fire, failed to extract or failed to eject.
I returned that kit to MidwayUSA, where I bought the original one, along with the repair records (such that they were) and at the suggestion of a friend who has forgotten more about rimfire guns than I will ever know, bought an Advantage Arms target kit. He told me that the differences between the Advantage Arms and Marvel kits are so miniscule that the average shooter would not be able to detect any difference in performance.
And he was right! To date, I have used the Advantage Arms kit on three 1911 frames, including that Kimber, without even one failure of any kind. And its accuracy is quite satisfactory, too.
Some time after that, two other club members joined me on our club's 25-yard pistol range. Both were trying out Kimber conversion kits they had just purchased and both went through the same frustrations that I had.
I eventually sold all of my Kimber 1911s and replaced them with Smith & Wessons. I did return one S&W for attention to something that turned out to be a non-issue but the actual Performance Center gunsmith working on the gun called me to discuss his findings. From those experiences, I heartily recommend both Advantage Arms rimfire conversion kits and S&W 1911s but have less than an enthusiastic opinion of Kimber products and service.
Fun2drive, I have a DK edition like yours - I assume yours is a .38 Super also and am glad to know that my conversion kit would work on it as well as my other 1911s. I've never tried it on that frame as I enjoy shooting it as a Super so much.
Ed
