ladder13,

Mike - we think alike for a reason - I was born in Brooklyn - went to PS-9. I am a displaced NY-er!

Now, to you '6 is just right' folks, please reconsider. You have obviously never considered the prospect of a 'Zombie tree-rat attack'! Mindless erect-walking squirrels with their front paws held out - drooling, eyes glazed - they mean you no good. A ten-shooter is best.

Seriously, if I don't leave you with anything else, get a 17/18/617 sooner rather than later. They are that much fun.

Stainz