Thanks for the info. When I removed the grips I noticed a name and number hand engraved on both sides of the grip frame. ARENDG C410c4. I was thinking an offices name and badge number? I forgot to mention in my previous post that the gun came with an open bottom belt holster, (I also have an old Redhead flap holster that i found in a garbage can that fits it perfect) and a H&R model 929 22 LR. revolver with a Hunter belt holster.