Not meaning to sound abrasive here either. The issue of 'knowing the top of the 38/357 loads' doesn't logically follow 'not knowing the top of the 696 loads'.

There is no accounting for differences of opinion and I'm all for personal exploration of the edges of the known universe.

Recoil-accuracy-safety etc all play into what I find enjoyable. The factory notion of 'what is safe' in their products has replaced my own adventurous spirit in the ballistic realm.

I luxuriate in the 41 mag specs, and am exploring loads in such as the M57 Mountain Gun to a scoped Super Blackhawk Rooger.

So many guns, so little time.

Good luck in your quest.

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