[QUOTE=tpd223;1269771]For a bit of fun, you can go here;

http://www.winchester.com/Products/l...n-testing.aspx

Hit the "Launch Testing Comparison Tool" and you can compare the various Ranger-T loads, note that the 124gr +P, 127gr +P+, and 147gr 9mms, and the .357Sig all give about the same performance in gelatin (in fact the 9mm is often better), also note "how close all of the service calibers come in actual performance".

Bingo! As far as a CCW SD round, Winchester has negotiated a truce in the caliber war, it doesn't matter.

LEO may have the need for a particular round because of barrier performance, but us normal folks are fine with 9mm.

As an aside, I have heard the San Jose PD is very happy with the 9mm 147 gr Ranger, and at one point was at 100% "effective" with it.