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Old 01-30-2010, 05:40 PM
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HR 218 needs to be clearer....it's federal so every state should abide by it...but some states seem to think they can get around it....NYC will not honor it for out of state officers...I have no idea why the NYPD commissioner would have a problem with retired cops carrying...let's see how he feels when he retires...

Here is NYPD/NY City putting its spin on things
July 1st, 2005
New York City Pistol Licensees
Commissioner Ray Kelly has screwed you again!
Letters are going out from NYPD Pistol License Section, to all individuals under their jurisdiction (civilian pistol license holders and retired MOS (retired NYPD Police Officers) who have been issued a NYC Pistol License.
If, when you acquired a semi-auto pistol, and indicated on your purchase document a magazine capacity of more than 10 rounds, you will have to prove prior to your next renewal that you legally disposed of such. No Exceptions.
Proof of legal disposal shall be a receipt from a licensed Gun Dealer or active police officer. No other method will be accepted.
Criminal penalties for possession of high-capacity ammunition feeding devices, by pistol license holders and retired NYPD MOS have been put into place. Regardless of when manufactured, or how marked, or when imported into NYC or NYS, they are now contraband, and are not ?grandfathered?.
Retired NYPD MOS who hold NYC Pistol Licenses are no longer exempt. Your ?issued? mags are now contraband.
July 1st, 2005
Retired NYPD MOS who wish to take advantage of H.R. 218 and carry outside the state of New York; Commissioner Ray Kelly has screwed you too!
Regarding retired NYPD Members of service and the federal provisions granted under HR 218. As per Commissioner Ray Kelly, the NYPD shall be the only entity who will provide federally recognized firearms training and provide identification of such qualification. For NYPD retirees who wish to possess a firearm, that must be department approved while traveling outside the state, Commissioner Kelly has indicated that only the make, model and caliber that the officer carried while ?on-the-job? will be accepted. The department?s Division of Legal Matters shall be the sole arbiter as to whom and which retired MOS shall be able to qualify. It has been indicated that medical retirees will not be able to qualify to carry under H.R. 218, since their medical condition prevented them from serving as a police officer. It has also been indicated that any officer applying for status as ?HR 218 qualified NYPD MOS retiree? will have their personnel file reviewed for any debilitating entries that can be utilized in the denial of such an application. The Commissioner has redefined what it means to be a ?retired? police officer. He has effectively divided the department in two; those who will be allowed to exercise their federal right and those who will not. The NYS Dept. of Criminal Justice Services is the sole arbiter regarding the method of instruction and the parameters of the identification card. Firearms Training Section will be the administrator of all such training and the department will be charging several fees for obtaining such a formal designation as a ?HR 218 qualified NYPD MOS retiree?. The Commissioner has decided that by doing so, it will eliminate ?the corruption of the system?, by outside training entities. Retirees living outside the state will only be recognized as an ?HR 218 qualified NYPD MOS retiree? only when they return to Rodman?s Neck and re-qualify. No other state?s training system will be recognized by the NYPD as a valid certification of HR 218 compliance
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