Your not kidding! I hear so many conflicting reports about super hot ammo I am confused. With all the expert commentary and knowledge on this forum somebody has to have the real facts about the super hot stuff. Good or Bad. Why do some manufactures state do not shoot +P+ ammo. What does it affect? Is there a difference between forged, cast, and polymer frames as to shooting the real hot stuff and what are the pressure differences between different ammo. Surely somebody has the real skinny on this. I have heard (not experienced that some ammo is just bad on some guns) Practicing for police work with regular pressure ammo and then carrying real hot stuff must have a relation to different results from practice to real shooting situations. I realize the adrenalin makes a difference but range scores then shouldn't be so different. Frankly I don't know and would like to hear from somebody that has the facts....thanks