Brokenhand, like you I have been hunting for a nice 25-5 and there are plenty to pick from but the more research I did about the oversized throats and the diferences from gun to gun it was starting to sound like a **** shoot to get a good one with the tolerances tight enough to fire factory ammo accurately. (I don't reload) So, unless I could get the seller to measure the chamber throats for me...not much luck with that, I am holding off and moving on to something else for now. Just my two cents worth. Bob