I don't hate the .25 or the .22 for that matter,I just accept they are both of rather limited use for defense.

To me I list both as "deep concealment,contact range" weapons i.e. you'll have to actually put the gun against your attacker for it to be of any use,face it even a weak 50 odd gr. FMJ with sixty odd foot lbs of muzzle energy is going to have a desired effect at ranges of a few feet.

If you get it in your head that you can deploy ether at five or ten yards like a reg gun you need to get some help.