The point and shoot method works best on the small conceled auto's. Seecamp,p238, baby browning...where you have no sight plan, I would never use this technec on a full size auto.

That said I have use it on a Karr 9mm at 15' an on a rapid fire pulled a 5" group. This is nothing I pratice but try it once and a while. You can also try holding you gun at your hip perpendicular to your sholders and by squaring your sholders to the target you will hit it at 15'

Again you wont do 1" groups but if it is you or the dirtbag you will win.

Moshin46