As revolvergeek notes above (and thanks revolvergeek for that), the ammo in question runs about 800fps on average out of a snubbie, which is outstanding. The JHP Winchester uses in these rounds is the old style Winchester JHP with the flat point and exposed lead tip. I've handloaded thousands of those in the past and they are good bullets. I picked up a box of these at my local Wal-Mart in Texas and paid $19.97 which I think is decent these days for 50 rounds of JHP.