Paul, Jessie's results and mine with the 60gr. V-Max in Mini-14 Ranch Rifles is not that unusual. I've heard of some folks getting 1 MOA groups with the combination. I have a couple of other Minis, not Ranch Rifles, that will beat 2" with the same loads. The "NRA" 16" Minis have a reputation for not shooting very well. I've wondered if Ruger relapsed to their heat-treat sloppiness that plagued the early ones with patterns instead of groups as the barrels heated, or if they just need a crown job, or maybe if the stock/handguard setup on that one is the culprit. I've not shot one of them myself, but several of the NRA models have been sold through our local shops, and the feedback I'm getting is not encouraging.