I like Federal 115gr red box for range ammo or WWB value pack 100. I do not like Remington for range or SD. There brass is to soft and I find it not to be accurate at all. There Golden Saber and new Home Defense load are identical. In my opinion for Self Defense I like Corbon DPX and Hornady Critical Defense. They both expand 99.9% of the time. If you want all out devastation then go with Winchester Ranger Talon T.