A lot of the old-timers I worked with swore by the "Chief's Special" load, otherwise known as Nyclad. I can't speak to the new stuff, but I've seen how the originals expanded and it was impressive. I carried the FBI load and ignored the non +p ratings, mostly because on what a cop made in those days I couldn't afford them. If the new stuff is anywhere as good as the old ones, they'll do just fine.