Thank you for the second option, I checked out the TK Custom website and watched their video of the process. I am interested to find out what the difference is between a S&W cut cylinder and a gunsmith cut cylinder, they state there is a difference? I can't wait to get one of my J frames cut and practice the reloads. I have one of the JM 327 8 shots and that has made me a big believer in the full moon clips but I most often shoot the little guns. I should have asked about this a long time ago. Thanks again for the information.