I had a guy offer me a 686-5 pre lock with facory combat grips for $575 last week. I bought a pre lock 686 Plus 7 shot about a year ago at a LGS for $475 OTD with Box and factory rubber grips. So your about 1/2 way between and deffinately in the ball park. I think they should be selling for a little less IMO but buy what you want and dont second guess yourself. Remember next year they could be much more.