OK-we got it. Broker 50-I took your suggestion in your next to last post. I took a large plastic slotted patch holder and experimented with some 220 wet and dry-(all I had, up to a much lighter grit), and I was tired of fooling with it-got several thin folds and the length of them so that when I wrapped them around the patch tool in a kind of backward "S" it filled the charge hole, but not tightly, or even close to that, so that I had kind of a flapper hone. Still had to do about half of them more than once, until I saw a consistant surface all the way through the cylinder bore. After completeing that last night, I loaded some more 170 gr LSWC's over abour 6.2 gr of Unique, and put them in moon clips. Then, today, went to the range, and immediately fired 6 into the burm, and out they came like a slide trombone! Then I set up a target, and checked for accuracy-very good, so Praise The Lord! Thank you everyone who contributed, especially broker 50. Thanks!, Flapjack