thanks david for the info, i have always believed that orville kuhl and son was the engraver, because of the other gun engraving i have seen pics of. i sure wiish there was a way to verify.
jsr- it was a family heirloom, but the way the young man explained it to was they were his guns and there were other guns he wanted more. he still had others that had belonged to his dad he wouldn't part with. so i ended up with it. keith