I have three. A no dash 4", a no dash 6", and a dash 2 6" 10 shooter with aluminum cyl. All three are extremely accurate out to 50+ yards. Shoot well at 100 yards too. You will pay extra for a no dash, especially a 4". Deals abound, and you will find several missing the original combat grips. They are $150 to, yep, I have seen real pretty ones for $400. Very fine S&W product that will shoot as well as any M17 or pre M17 ever made. I.M.H.O. anyway. Big Larry