Just do it...
I spent way too much time looking for a 4" 617. Finally picked up a new one this week, new at fir feather and fin in ohio for 680sumthin.
Just find the one you want and get it. It will make you smile.
Shoots better than me, initial quality is very good, great cheap trainer for any center fire you may have.
I' try to put up a pic of my new friend and his big brother no dash 686.
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