Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. I bought this ammo from an old gentleman whose son died rather unexpectedly. A friend of mine knew them very well. There's no doubt that it's Winchester factory ammo, but he never saved the original boxes for any of his ammo, and he had a lot of different stuff. It's nickel plated brass, red sealant on the primers and a black hollow point bullet that looks exactly like the Black Talon in all the other factory loaded calibers that I have. I'd just like to know what the velocity is.

Dave Sinko