I have had holsters made by El Paso Saddlery, very high quality work. I recently bought a new 686 4" and was looking at the Tom Three Persons and the Austin. Nice belts too. You will have to wait, they take awhile to get the product to you. Good customer service on returns. Look up Tom Three Persons on Goolge, hard to believe people have lives like he did. Quite a guy.