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Originally Posted by chuck s
The list of policemen (who are civilians, by the way) "saved" by a magazine disconnect is probably about the same length as drivers who were "saved" in a wreck because they were thrown clear of the wreck because they were not wearing their seat belt. Want to play those odds?  |
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We issued S&W autos for 32 years. They all had mag disconnects. I personally know 4 of our guys during my career who were saved by the mag disconnect. 3 of those were Troops and 1 was one of our dispatchers who was working part time at a small town. In 2 of the cases the Troops said that as they knew they were losing control of the firearm their thought was to hit the mag button. The other 2 said they don't recall hitting the mag button and it may have been hit accidently. In all 4 incidents after the bad guys had gotten their guns they had attempt to shoot our guys. Either way all 4 lived out their careers because the mag disconnect saved their lives.
In the 32 years that we issued S&W we did not have a single incident where the mag disconnect caused our person to be hurt or killed.
Sure a good holster is important. So is good weapon retention tactics and repeated training. But as with everything in life there's a guy name Murphy who rides with all of us. A good holster can be defeated. No matter how good and how much training you do with weapons retention there will always be someone stronger, quicker, more powerful, and they all have the ability to act first. Dropping the mag to disable your firearm is just another tool in the tool box.
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Originally Posted by chuck s
The argument for a magazine disconnect is as specious as that for not wearing your seat belt.
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This is a false comparison. A magazine disconnect may just save someone's life. Driving without a seatbelt only puts the individual at risk needlessly in a car.
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Originally Posted by chuck s
During training courses we often see students engage targets without magazines in their pistols or with unseated magazines. If the chamber is loaded they at least get one shot -- if they don't have a magazine disconnect.
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I do not see a frequent problem of individuals in and out of uniform requiring more than 15 rounds to stop an attack.Even line police officers rarely are involved in shootings demanding multiple reloads. Most criminals flee at the mere sight of a target producing a weapon, to say nothing of sticking around for a shootout afterwards. Of the times shots were fired generally speaking the situation was over one way or another inside of 10 rounds. The argument could be put forth that needing a spare magazine at all is superfluous, to say nothing of shooting whilst the magazine is out.
Balance the unlikely event of being in a Matix & Platt type extended shootout against the near certain probability of the user to either safe or clear a firearm for administrative purposes, and the magazine disconnect makes more sense.
I submit that more kids are dead because a handgun wasn't secured , and many more cops are dead because the crook got the gun away from them, than good people are dead because in a drawn out gunfight the ability to shoot that one round in the chamber accurately was denied to them.