Bulk AR-15 ammo

I recently bought a case of 855 with penetrator for Approx $345 and about 20 for shipping. This is a 1200 round case. Not the 1000 you get from federal that says "not for duty" on the can. Some cans have it some don't. 40 boxes 30 rounds each. I've shot this in my match H-Bar and it runs great. Frank
 
m1gunner said:
We aren't supposed to post links here, I've gotten nastygrams in the past for doing so. So, I sent you an IM with the info.
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You'll see links posted to answer specific questions like this.
OK:
Someone asks where to buy bulk 5.56??
Someone answers Widener's Reloading and Shooting Supply INC
No harm, no foul.

What we don't like:
Blatant self promotion of websites-
"Hi! I (or my buddy) just opened a website! This is a big forum with lots of traffic, so I thought I'd advertise here for free without even asking!
VISIT my website at sendmeallyormoney.com

Indexing bare (or nearly bare) links of every video on Youtube-
Thread Title: "Great Vid"
Thread Content: linkylinkylinky

Indexing bare (or nearly bare) links of every news story you read today-
Thread Title: "Must Read!"
Thread Content: linkylinkylinky

Bare or nearly bare links to any/everybody on the net who sells guns-
Thread Title: "Tuns o' Guns Here"
Thread Content: Bought me a gun at linkylinkylinky

We figure if people want to watch 20 shooting vids, they probably know where Youtube is and might even be capable of using the search function.
We figure if people can read, they can probably find the news sites.
We figure if people are shopping for Glocks, they might be able to find some......

This is a discussion forum, not the Index to the Internet.
 
I have posted links to sites that show a specific gun that I own as a response to someone asking questions about that type of gun. I have also posted links to sites that I have done business with if they sell something that someone is trying to find. I have not been advised not to do so and I think that these are examples of acceptable links as described by Lee.
 
Everyone can just check out ammoseek.com and fin where some of the best deals on the net are.
 
Armyphotog said:
I guess I haven't been keeping up. What's the difference between .223 and 5.56? I thought it was the same thing.
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.223 is loaded to lower pressure specs than 5.56. You can shoot .223 out of a 5.56 upper but it's not generally considered safe practice to put 5.56 out of .223 unless it's a .223 wylde chamber.
.223 chambers are also a bit tighter and depending on what you read and who you talk to, are inherently more accurate than
5.56, especially if you're putting .223 down range with a 5.56.

For plinking and varmint within 150 yards I like the 62 gr. Brown Bear. It's not under powered like TulAmmo and Wolf and costs about .25 more per box.
 
I like the Silver Bear 62 gr HP and bought quite a lot of it from CTD. I've been shooting it in a piston carbine I built myself. I'm very happy with it.
 
Yeah, I seem to remember then advertising $700 for a 1000 round case for 5.56 ammo. They are high on a lot of their ammo. I shop around trying to get the best deals for my ammo money. I expect them to start raising prices as the election draws near and panic buying starts taking place. Its already starting with powder, primers, certain types of magazines not being available. You get the picture. Frank
 
I think the free bore before the rifling starts on 5.56 is longer for longer heavyer bullets. .223 Rem free bore is less for varmint bullet styles. Check your barrel what caliber does it say? Better off not trying 5.56 in .223 less docter visits.
 
I got a flyer from Cheaper than Dirt this week with an ad for Lake City 5.56 XM855 420 rounds for $159.97. I paid $150 recently for it. When I called to order some yesterday I was informed the price went up $30.00. I declined.
Brownells is out of stock on same ammo today. I think the price increases and availability have started.
 
The stuff with an X designator is rejects. While that used to be cosmetic flaws, in the pre-2001 days, now you will find that the X often means rejected for over-pressure. In XM193 I have heard of lots that are at or above proof levels. Cheap is the not the same as inexpensive. Saving a few cents a round and blowing up my BCM is not what I would call a good deal, so I generally stick to Black Hills reloads, and might try some of Chen's ASYM ammo.
 
Doug M. said:
The stuff with an X designator is rejects. While that used to be cosmetic flaws, in the pre-2001 days, now you will find that the X often means rejected for over-pressure. In XM193 I have heard of lots that are at or above proof levels. Cheap is the not the same as inexpensive. Saving a few cents a round and blowing up my BCM is not what I would call a good deal, so I generally stick to Black Hills reloads, and might try some of Chen's ASYM ammo.
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I'm not sure where you get that info about X being rejects as I understand from a Federal rep that they only sell rejects to employees and mark their boxes in that manner. I've seen those boxes BTW.
The Federal XM855 I have bought from Brownells is claimed to be new first run ammo. I'd think if they were rejects Brownells would state so if nothing more than to protect their reputation.
If you have differing information I'd be interested to hear about it as I have many rounds of the stuff.
 
From Federal's web site:

• XM193 product is first run, first quality product manufactured at Lake City Army Ammunition Plant for Federal Cartridge and is made to Federal specifications typical for commercial ammunition.

• All XM193 product is the same regardless of the sku or part number. (ie. XM193C is the same as XM193F, XM193CBP and etc…) The only difference is the package configuration.

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No ammo company these days will sell rejected ammo to the public, especially over-pressure rejects.

Lawyers would have a field day, and many folks would be new "lottery winners".

If anyone has reservations, just contact the manufacturer, they will give you the real skinny.

The closest thing I ever saw to "reject" ammo was patrol turn-in ammo from Israel that was available in the 90s. This was grungy, stuff turned in by field troops and range leftovers from training. The importer cleaned it in a cement mixer, and sold it in 30 cal ammo cans.

It was very cheap, and all went bang, no problem. But the importer was totally up front about what it was (real surplus, no guarantees). I shot several thousand rounds of the stuff and may have tossed less than a handfull of it due to huge dents.
 
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Multiple reports from people who teach a lot some of whom have a lot of rounds (well over 500K) go downrange in front of them every year. Had some myself a few years ago and sold it when I was between jobs and short of bucks. The buyer (medically retired Marine) used it for varmint control hunting and said it was very hot compared to anything else he had shot.
 
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According to the folks at Federal I have talked with, Federal Eagle .223 and Federal XM193 are the same cartridge. One may have a polished case and the other not, but its the same bullet, same powder, and loaded to the same specs.

Just what I've been told. I buy Federal 100 round bulk, 20 round XM193 and XM193 on stripper clips in a 30cal ammo can at WaldoMart and it is generally the cheapest Federal I can find. Good ammo.

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