i run FFP's on a couple of my hunting rifles. the new Weavers' are great and i have a Schmidt and Bender Short dot 1.1-4x24 in a LaRue QD on a .308 M24'gery. the joys of First Focal Plane shooting have really not caught on here in the states as it is considered a 'European' scope. tell ya what, once you use one you will never go back after you get used to it. no more hold over, everything in same plane, the weaver 1-5x24 in a PEPER. I really prefer to use the MPBR when i hunt (maximum point blank range) so that i know that when i put that dot behind the shoulder of whatever, that is where it is going to hit.