Went to the LGS and got the last box of S&B and a box of Fiocchie. From what I've been reading the European brands have given more people light strikes over the years so I'll try these two. Yikes ! the price of store bot ammo these days... $18 plus homage per box is insane. Guy said its going up next month again. Went to 3 stores and from the looks of the shelves people are stocking up already.