You are right. I never wanted one until I saw a .35 Rem version (scarce) at an auction, in pristine condition, and had to have it. Even though it looked new, it had great difficulity chambering and ejecting live rounds, so much that I never even had a chance to fire it. I took it to my gunsmith, who said: "You know, there is a reason they did not make many of these." I then googled the 170, and there was more bad news than you read in a week.