Well gentlemen hate to chime in with more bad news but..... After reading this forum again I decided I would venture out and test this new mag release that S&W sent me. Same problem from round one. Being LEO I called and left a message for their west coast LEO rep so hopefuly I will have an answer in the next day or two. Being an avid collector of firearms I have plenty to use in the mean time and I know S&W will take care of the problem in the long run. Just frustrating :-<