Hey, guys, thanks for all the advise. I going to go with the Model 63 kit gun. I will be shooting more than carrying and with all your advise, this is better suited for that. I want something that I'm going to be able to pass down to my kids and grandkids and I think that the all steel would be better for that. The price is also good enough that I could sell or trade it easily for the 317, if I am not happy with it. I don't think that I could trade even for the Model 63 the other way around. Thanks, again. Jesse.