Well tested my first .357 reloads w/ W231. These all went through a 6" 686 at 25yds. Using the Hodgon site recipe for 158 LSWC (extreme plated 158SWC), WSP and remington cases, COL of 1.590. They suggest a start of 3.4 all the way up to 5grns. I made 14ea @ 4.4, 4.6 and 4.8 grns. They all felt like I was shooting a .22. I set out 3 seperate 5" targets. All hits on paper from a standing freehand stance w/ gusty wind not helping. Not all really tight groups but at least on the paper. Hodgon used a 10" barrel, WSPM and an OAL of 1.610. I did notice that the reloads had a bit more smoke than I had seen shooting factory loads. I will say that these are with out a doubt plinking load's.