I wasn't upset with the results. I didnt expect them to compete w/ full house magnum loads. As stated in my first post on the subject I was going to just be punching paper and clay targets with them. Actually I'm pretty happy that they worked out as well as they did. These are the first revolver rounds I have ever made so it was fun. I have been loading 45acp for a while now and thought I would get into revolvers as well. I may up the charge a little 5.2 to 5.4 but, other than that I'm good with them. They can help me chew up all of this w231 I got. I will probably pick up some 2400 just to say I did and give it whirl as well.