As previously mentioned in post #20 I have been carrying/shooting/instructing firearms professionally for 40 years....and I try not to get embroiled in "debates" about calibers or cartridges.....Shot placement is king.....and to me, various platforms and loadings are simply "tools in the tool box".....as an instructor I have instructed officer's with the 38spl,357mag,9mm,40 S&W,45 acp,10mm and the 357 sig....some of these posed particular issues & challenges when training officers, but they all serve their purpose and a lot of folks have their own opinions about what they prefer and for what reasons and that is great. They should embrace their choice of platform, loading and develop skill sets and learn to use their "tools" of choice to their optimum level.