I just thought I would throw this out there in response to the "its to heavy when metal" or "3rd Gens are antiquated". My H&K p2000sk weighs 24oz empty. My CS9 weighs 24oz fully loaded! I would argue that smith was ahead of its time! The mistake they made was not adapting the firing system to the new generations. All they had to do was come out with some LEM models or lighten the first pull on their DA/SA and add some rail options and they still would have been light years ahead of the competition! They already had the size and weight and reliability taken care of long before the other guys did in the compact and sub-compact market they just didn't follow through with proper marketing IMO.