I dont like the looks of them but if they work well they make a lot of sense. If they "looked" like a winchester 1890 or colt lighting I would be hot for one in 357. I grew up on a pump model 61. You can shoot those things accuratly as any semi auto. Light and fast especialy with a visable hammer. I have a remington pump 30-06 760 that was my dads. I had it in the back of the safe for 10 years after he died. I got around to finaly checking it out at the range last year and was highly impressed! They are faster than either a bolt or lever and just as accurate. I have a peep on mine and its amazing!