Thanks for that, Turnerriver, I appreciate the feedback.....so what the heck DOES fit my two? The Ruger came with a Bucheimer shoulder holster, which is a nice holster, but imo doesn't fit the gun and I'm not too keen on a shoulder holster anyways.......My S&W does have a holster that I had custom made, but I am always looking for more than one..........and I do like the looks of the GL holsters!!