Holy Ice Bucket, Batman. I had the S&W 360PD that weighed in at 11.4 oz. empty. .357 magnum round, 5 shot. I dare anybody to shoot 10 consecutive rounds as fast as possible without having to go to the emergency room. Might as well just drive over your hand with your 1 ton pickup. I sold it and bought the .40 Shield. Best thing I ever did. To Naviwilliams, "I feel your pain".