So can someone explain to me how China is less communist than New Joisey? I don't like it either, but for some things you've got to go commie. Want a new shovel? Stop at a yard sale and buy genuine USA. Also better quality if it was made 30 years or more ago. Same for most hand and garden tools.

Japan actually makes some pretty good stuff. The Miroku guns made for Browning and Winchester is better than Made in USA for the last 50 years. Good steel, good workmanship, fit as well as American from the 1930s.

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Dick Burg