Stoger copywrited the name "Luger" as regards to firearms. Up thru the 1970's ammo boxes were semi-commonly marked 9mm Luger.
In the past on various forums I have shown off listing bunches of obscure ctgs with * 9mm * in the designation , but don't feel up to it this morning.
And there ARE some 9x19 pistols currently ( or recently ) that specify no +P ammo. They generally are either high dollar expreme subcompacts , or very inexpensive .
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