I shot alot of 38sw in Webleys using a158swc with 2.7 grs of red for a average of near 800fps out of the 5" barrel. This is way more powerful than a 380. The only 380 Load that came close on Penetration was S and B fmj ball ammo. HP is a waste in the 380 or 38sw. You need at least 1000+ fps to open a hollow point and the way they get is to reduce bullet weight and this reduces the chances of hitting vitals. So hp is useless in 380. The 158swc lead bullet hauls the mail!!