New York PD Reports that the Speer Gold Dot 135g. 38+P works well. They were authorized to use this ammo in their 2" and 4" Off Duty and Back Up Revolvers. If this ammo is taking care of bag guys for them on the street, that's good enough for me. I don't care too much about jello or water jugs. Since I only carry Snubs that's what I use.

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Two Handguns every day