Groo, I appreciate yours and Arch's comments. I was not attempting to prove any type ammunition is superior, just testing velocities of some ammo on hand that had been mentioned in this thread, Nyclad. I decided to chronograph a couple of other loads while at the range. I understand that some old tec. ammunition did have large hollow points, and/or considerable exposed lead. I used a fair amount of it myself. Fortunately though, modern ammunition for semi-automatic calibers has evolved and been shown to expand effectively without the need of exposed lead SJHP designs such as the old Remington loads. I would be comfortable carrying a revolver with SJHP type ammunition, or modern ammunition in a semi-auto, even if there was no exposed lead. For instance, something like the Federal HST ammunition for semi-auto calibers. Again, not trying to prove anything or sway anyone's opinion, just sharing results.....ymmv

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