Originally Posted by rednichols

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The first 2800s had stamped metal cups, covered with a thin moulded leather against the pistol; then John had the rather excellent idea of converting that set (another was stamped into the rear metal stiffener for the belt loop) to a plastic injection moulded part with a wide flange that was stitched through when the pocket was stitched 'round.

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The Judge's weakness was rear assaults, something that we didn't resolve as well as Hoyt and Nelson did with theirs (their weakness was side grabs, though). Heck, I reckon even Safety Speed (a simpler approach still with a U spring) and old Tex Shoemaker (every complex, more like the Hoyt spring -- but harder!) dealt with that better than we did. Turns out that muzzle drag in the 27 and 27K at least had the benefit of trapping the muzzle and preventing rear takeaways. Then we discovered that takeaways were being taught in U.S. prisons and went an entirely different direction, with the Hurricane #350.