I have a " Hunters Arms " 12 gr SXS , with external hammers . It hung in a gunshop for 3 yrs . Once a yr the owners widow would come into the shop and ask about it . I had been wanting a SXS 12 ga to go along with my 10 gr Ithica SXS , exposed hammers . I pd $350 for the 12ga . Never really thought about it being a good price or not . Shoots fine . I don't push hot and heavy loads through it .