The model 12 is a classic. The balance is close to that of a nice sxs game gun. The 16 ga. really does carry like a 20 and hit like a 12 ga. The 16 can have ejection problems even with original 2 3/4" chambers as case lengths are so variable. Most 20 ga. hulls are closer to 2 5/8 than 2 3/4. I traded into a nice 16 ga. field gun last fall. I haven't shot a pump in probably 10 years, but I shot a 20 at skeet the second round I shot with it. And the choke really was still full. I'm not that good, It just handles well. Prices on M-12's go up and down, but the aren't making any more of them.