An LGS had 2 p-11's for sale, One New, one used. I had decided I would like to get one for a CC piece, and went to the store with cash in my pocket. We tried the used gun first. I could not pull the slide all the way back, I pulled the on the new gun also, and no go for that one either. My friend and I continued on a swing of all the gun shops in the south half of the area I run in, and at the last shop I saw a M&P 9c. I gave the slide a stout pull and just about jerked the gun from my other hand, the slide came back so easy! I bought the Smith. I realize they are not apples to apples. A perfect sized gun that I can't use is just a nice looking paper weight!

Ivan