I purchased these from Patrick back some time in 2006 for a 19-5 that I had. Traded that for a Python in 2009 but saved the grips figuring I'd probably have another mid frame round butt S&W at some point. They stayed buried in my safe until about a month ago when I stumbled into this Talo 686+ and figured the homeless Elk Stags would look pretty good on it along with the Tyler T grip also salvaged from the ol' 19.